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Exonerate Lynndie England Now! Memos Lift the Veil of Bush Era Torture.

Fri May 8, 2009 9:53 AM EDT
politics, iraq, torture, abu-ghraib, john-yoo, lynndie-england
By oneofmany

Private England

Private England with an Abu Ghraib prisoner

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In lieu of the controversy over the release of torture memos" drafted by top level officials from the Bush administration, it seems only right that Private Lynndie England's role in the abuse/"torture" of prisoners at Abu Ghraib should be reconsidered. From the moment this story broke years ago this indictment did not sit right with me. It was as if a distant, silent yet wise voice was repeating to me "scape goat-scape goat-scapegoat".

Her actions, which are verifiable through photographs detailing her participation in these questionable events, were undeniably unethical. However, it has now become apparent that these were, in fact, procedures approved by authorities with responsibilities well above those of her and her cohorts.

Anyone who has served in the United States military knows that low ranking enlisted personnel (essentially E-1-E-6) have very little discretionary authority. This is particularly true in terms of adherence too and interpretation of standard operating procedures. That, coupled with the relatively high visibility of the daily routines of personnel at the company level (particularly in forward deployed locations), makes it increasingly difficult to believe that the actions of Ms. England were carried out unbeknownst to her commanding officers.

In fact, a recently separated soldier I interviewed who served in Iraq for the 2nd Squadron 1st Cavalry Regiment Alpha Troop stated that "prison troops are among the most regimented groups in the army". He further informed me that in his experience there is essentially no circumstance ( f'cking impossible being his exact words) with in which a private could behave in such a deviant manner without the knowledge of higher ranking soldiers and officers.

The culture of the military is organized such that responsibility for questionable procedural initiatives can often and will often be filtered through the lower echelon. This process fortifies a shield around higher ranking decision makers and allows lower ranking individuals to become easy/essential targets for scapegoating.

Young enlisted men and women do make mistakes that hurt their military careers and the reputation of their units but this is a case of following cultural norms and the institutionalization of an degenerate system of authority. By rationalizing and even mandating the harsh treatment of Iraqi prisoners the Bush administration and the DoD created an atmosphere that encouraged the relaxation of ethical standards towards the treatment of prisoners.

It is in my opinion that, though Lynndie England is guilty of these crimes, the circumstances with in which she committed them were systematically rationalized by high ranking authorities. Her subjective inclination to participate in these events were influenced by the normalizing effects of rank and file cultural indoctrination, and justifies a review of her conviction. Due to the the blatant and irresponsible disregard for human rights condoned by the highest level of governance it is my belief that her dishonorable discharge should be reduced and her criminal record expunged.

Her actions did violate military code which justifies punishment, but the responsibility for maintaining order was deliberately neglected by top level officials. Again, Lynndie England, though guilty of abuse, was operating in an atmosphere of compliance to directives and initiatives that were informally (and possibly formally) propagated through the chain of command. If such an assertion sounded crazy in 2005 it does not now. This young lady and her cohorts were used as a scapegoats by top level officials to distract from the "legally" mandated acts of torture levied against these prisoners.

EXONERATE LYNNDIE ENGLAND NOW!

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oneofmany

thats my opinion and im stickin' to it...

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Fri May 8, 2009 9:57 AM EDT
trm2008

If the ones at the top aren't going to be prosecuted, then why make the little guys pay? I abhor the things that have been done but this is injustice.

  • 13 votes
#1.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 10:17 AM EDT
JoulesBeef

Bush knew
and he did not pardon her
to save his own neck.
thats prettty damn cowardly for a president.

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
TheJonesGirl

, then why make the little guys pay

Isn't Cheney all about saving the little guys from prosecution? Oh, wait, he means the "little guys" who connect to himself.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT
Wheel

That, coupled with the relatively high visibility of the daily routines of personnel at the company level (particularly in forward deployed locations), makes it increasingly difficult to believe that the actions of Ms. England were carried out unbeknownst to her commanding officers.

I was in the military for 6 years. Never did anything that an officer didn't know about. I've always said the enlisteds got scapegoated in the Abu Garaib affair. Officer heads should have rolled.

  • 6 votes
#1.4 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
oneofmany

If the ones at the top aren't going to be prosecuted, then why make the little guys pay? I abhor the things that have been done but this is injustice.

hello freind,

see...I love effeciency. In two sentences you expressed exactly what i was trying to say in this article.

thats prettty damn cowardly for a president.

i dont care how much some may want pretend that it never happened or how much some my hate obama...mr. Bush II is easily the worst pres. ever...

I was in the military for 6 years. Never did anything that an officer didn't know about.

i also did 6 yrs and i have too fully concur...

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT
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Archie Haase

The female general who blessed this torture now demoted who was in charge of England is living on a high ranking officers pension.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Fri May 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT
Darkwood

General Janis Karpinski was busted back to colonel, but to her credit she has come out strongly against those even higher in chain of command including Rumsfeld and Cheney. The precedent of imprisoning England for her role in this makes it more imperative that those who were behind these acts against humanity be investigated and if found culpable, be prosecuted. It is also unjust that those in the CIA who performed the hands on torture should be excused while England is in jail for the same crime. This must be addressed in the coming investigations. Good article, Oneofmany.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 11:24 AM EDT
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badapplebooks

I am the wife of the man who is about to release Lynndie England's authorized biography on June 1 through "Bad Apple Books". The title of the book is "Tortured: Lynndie England, Abu Ghraib, and the Photographs that Shocked the World". Why that title? Because she was put through torture by her then boyfriend, Graner, the military, and her commander-in-chief and his cronies.

You are right. There are so many mistruths out there by Ms. England that the media gladly blew up when this happened. Where were the skeptics, then? Yes, Ms. England should not have posed in those pictures,but once people learn the context of what was going on when they were taken, and Graners infatuation with using a camera to document everthing in his personal and private life, and sharing pictures with his friends (many of these pictures were already in circulation at the Internet Cafe at AG.

Lynndie was NOT a guard, warden, or MP. She touched no prisoner, she did not torture any prisoner. The "leash picture" is not what it seems. Does she look like she's all that interested in what is going on? Is she pulling the "Gus" the detainee? No, she literally stepped into the situation because she was visiting Graner (something she was not authorized to do, but he was her boyfriend and protector). Gus was not cooperating with being moved to another cell. Graner did not want to get caught up in a fight with Gus in the cell so he grabbed a military "tie down" wrapped it around the middle of Gus and tried to lift him up to get him on his feet. Gus kept resisting. By the time Graner got him out of the cell,the tie down had slipped and was up around his neck. He asked Lynndie to get his camer so that he could document what Gus was doing (another thing they were supposed to do if they had to use force on a detainee). He asked Lynndie to hold the "leash" while he took a picture, click, click, and Lynndie handed the "leash" back to Graner at which point Gus calmed down, got up, and he walked back to his cell...,

Yes, I tell this story from the vantage point of someone who has read trial transcripts and heard Ms. England talk about this. If you are interested in reading HER OWN STORY - that is balanced please visit our website, or on Facebook:

The book will officially go on sale on June 1.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:55 PM EDT
Archie Haase

I just hope this woman's child somehow benefits from your book.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT
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badapplebooks

PS - just add .com after badapplebooks! The book will also be avaliable at all bookstores and Amazon.

    Reply#4 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
    badapplebooks

    pss

    The comment on Ms. Karpinski. Yes, she was the General incharge of the prison system in Iraq, but HER SUPERIOR ordered her NOT TO STEP FOOT INTO TIER IA (the hard site) because MI (Military Intelligence) was incharge of that area because it was used for interrogations.

    This is another way the media hurt Ms. Karpinski - her commanding officers all the way up to Rumsfeld knew about this. Did they stand up to defend her? NO!

    Folks, all the Reservists are due major apologies by the military, the then COC, and the members of the media who fell for the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld spin....

    • 3 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
    Archie Haase

    In my previous rants regarding Americans torturing prisoners I was trying to point out when you give power to people with low intelligence, little morality and ethical training embedded in their training or family history this is what you end up with. People abusing weaker people.

    This is what I do not like in some Americans who want to make people suffer because they perceive their country suffered on 9/11. It is like a bully who beats up on small children because he can.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT
    badapplebooks

    You know, I don't like bullies either, but when they have the name "Dick Cheney", "Rumsfeld" or "Bush" - what do you do if you are a low level soldier?

    Archie Haase, your comment smacks of "classism" - pure and simple.

    Who was the bully in this situation? I think it was an "out-of-control White House that believed it could get away with ordering torture and murder of its troops and dare them to buck their command. How many grunts do you know who would dare challenge an order? Read about what happened to the guy who turned the photos over to command "anonymously". He was outed by a SUPERIOR - who claimed it was a mistake. None of his fellow Reservists have given him a hard time, but his hometown did, and other veterans. The military does not look too kindly on those who are whistle blowers. They want their soldiers to be compliant, follow orders, and don't ask questions.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#7 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:25 PM EDT
    Archie Haase

    Maybe I have a higher standard for those in charge of prisoners, then those in power during the Bush years. My vile is not directed at this woman as much as it is for the culture of the Army that permitted this to happen. The leadership as my grandfather would say is low brow. That is where this problem started.

    • 1 vote
    #7.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
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    badapplebooks

    This is the biggest reason the book was written. She can't even get a job at a burger joint because she is a convicted felon. Walmart turned her down due to her notoriety. The one bright spot to emerge out of this sad story is little Carter, the apple of her eye. Yes, he will benefit.

      Reply#8 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:32 PM EDT
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